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Hello. I am an Eagle Scout, International Scouter, and former member of the Boy Scouts of America. I have recently withdrawn my membership in reaction to the bigoted decisions of the heads of the Boy Scouts of America. At some point, enough is enough. I hold no ill will to any Scout or Scouter who is still a member. Their decisions may be different from the official stance.

Allow me to explain just how insulted I am that an organization I have worked with for nearly seventeen years of my life has decided to exclude, and dishonor fellow human beings based on their sexual orientation.

A Scout is Trustworthy – the organization of The Boy Scouts of America's first point of its own law is establishing a foundation of trust. By setting a standard that some people are not qualified to be Scouts based on their own personal, uncontrollable orientation of who they love, the organization itself has desecrated the very idea. By setting this standard, some boys now must live in fear of being excluded from an organization they held dear. By setting this standard, the organization itself has deemed itself not worthy of trust, and required some boys not to be honest, and perhaps in the process feel untrustworthy.

A Scout is Loyal – the organization of The Boy Scouts of America has breached this tenant of their law by abandoning their own members for simply being different in a harmless way. They exclude others based on sexual orientation. They deem fellow members, card carrying members who have dedicated their time, energy, and enthusiasm to an organization "unworthy" of the title of Scout because of who they love.

A Scout is Helpful – the organization of The Boy Scouts of America has gone out of their way not to aid members of their own group from bullying by leaders and higher ups based on their sexual orientation. When informed of their leaders' misdeeds: exile, the main one among them, they do nothing but say their policy is that LGBT people are not allowed in the organization.

A Scout is Friendly – the organization of The Boy Scouts of America has dishonored the idea of being a friendly organization by excluding people based on something they can't control. Homosexuality, bisexuality, and gender nonconformity are not decisions. They are not things one can just change. Exclusion of anyone for being who they are in a way that does not harm others is in no way the action of a friendly organization.

A Scout is Courteous – the civility of The Boy Scouts of America is in question when they make it their official stance to exclude fellow human beings for things they cannot control. There is no courtesy or respect in an organization who will exclude based on such things.

A Scout is Kind – The Boy Scouts of America directly breach the idea of kindness by being exclusionary based on any factor. By excluding individuals based on who they love, no kindness is shown. By endorsing a mindset that promotes bigotry and bullying, no kindness is shown.

A Scout is Obedient – in contemporary society, acceptance of nonstraight people is commonplace. There are negative articles in response to every discriminatory action taken by the Boy Scouts of America. The obedience on the part of The Boy Scouts of America should be to hear what society has said about discrimination and abolish any policies that discriminate against harmless individuals based on who they are.

A Scout is Cheerful – one cannot spread cheer through discrimination. The Boy Scouts of America does not appear cheerful when they go out of their way to exclude individuals based on their sexual orientation. They appear bigoted and even scared of those who do not fall in line with archaic notions about what is "normal."

A Scout is Thrifty – it is entirely wasteful to exclude from one's organization, willing and able members of a friendly society based on sexual orientation. By eliminating willing participants, manpower is limited and time is wasted. Further, the discrimination can and will cause excluded individuals to tell others about the way they were treated, further causing people to be unwilling to aid a hateful organization.

A Scout is Brave – bravery in this case would be admission of one's mistakes. The Boy Scouts of America has been cowardly, hiding in denial of the faults from within: holding fast to policies that are outdated and insulting. The stance of the greater organization of The Boy Scouts of America is one of cowardice. In fact, they detest bravery. They outcast former members of their organization for taking one of the bravest actions imaginable: being completely honest about who they are, and not compromising their integrity, in the face of judgment.

A Scout is Clean – as I have been taught during my time in Scouting, cleanliness means both physical and moral cleanliness. It is entirely immoral to exclude any group of people who have done no harm to others from an organization based on things they cannot change.

A Scout is Reverent – The Bible, The Book of Mormon, and the Koran all teach love of neighbors. There is no caveat that they be straight. There is no caveat at all. Love should extend beyond faith. All three books teach to love those with whom you disagree. This, however is not the stance of the Boy Scouts of America.

On My Honor, I will do my best, to do my duty, to God and my country, and to obey the Scout Law. To help other people at all times, to keep myself physically strong, mentally awake, and morally straight.

The fleur-de-lis in scouting also symbolizes pointing the right direction. The right direction is acceptance. The two stars symbolize truth--the truth is that LGBT people are just as good as any others--and knowledge--knowledge and understanding of LGBT members can be achieved through inclusion and interaction, tolerance and conversation. The points of the fleur-de-lis symbolize the three points of the promise: duty to one's god(s) and country, the faith part is addressed in reverence, above, and duty to country includes all citizens, from all walks of life; duty to self, expansion of self is achieved by learning, not sheltering; and duty to others, all others, of all genders, sexualities, faiths (or lack thereof,) ages, walks of life, social status, race, ethnicities, etc. Exclusion is not the right choice.

To help other people at all times, regardless of sexual orientation, gender, race, religion, anything. Helping a youth become the best he can be should be the goal of Scouting in every way, no exceptions.

Mental awakeness: times are changing, and the idea of exclusion of anyone based on sexuality or gender identity are outdated ideas that society finds repulsive.
Moral straightness: discrimination of any kind is in no way moral.
I implore you, as a service and charity organization, to change your policies on behalf of the millions of people who have been hurt, excluded, or discriminated against by an organization that has not kept with the times and learned that old age ideals won't work in new age society.

I wholly understand that the decisions of the national council are not those of every Scout and Scouter out there. After all, Eric Jones, Jennifer Tyrrell and many others used to be Scouts and Scouters until they were dismissed from the organization. I have withdrawn my membership, personally, due to being unwilling to affiliate my name with an organization so bigoted in their beliefs. However, there are still Scouts and Scouters out there who are not so bigoted in their hearts as the policymakers for the organization as a whole. I support my (former) fellow Scouts and Scouters in their struggles to make the organization the best they can.

I have heard arguments that it is for the safety of the youth. However, there are females allowed in Venturing and as leaders. Their motives are not in question, nor are the straight male leaders' motives in question toward the females. Further, sexual, physical, and mental abuse can come from anyone, male or female, gay or straight or anything in between. The idea of safety being the reason is short sighted and implies that only gay males can be predators to the youths. It also does nothing to explain the banning of LGBT people who have no interest in males. The argument falls flat. Any argument for banning LGBT youth and leaders comes from a bigoted and archaic perspective which perpetuates bullying and prejudice.

I stand by my values. The same ones the Boy Scouts taught me. I, however, use them in a way that does not provide exceptions. I choose to be trustworthy, loyal, helpful, friendly, courteous, kind, obedient, cheerful, thrifty, brave, clean, reverent, to do good turns daily, be prepared, try to help all other people at all times, and keep myself physically strong, mentally awake, and morally straight while adhering to the values I have. Inclusion is among those values. I refuse to see someone differently based on something harmless, or something they cannot change.

Further research had me emailing the Boy Scouts of the United Kingdom. I asked if they had a stance on LGBT members. Their stance? "In the UK we have a Policy that welcomes adults and young people irrespective of their sexual orientation. We are proud that we have had this policy in place for many, many years. We believe this position reflects the needs and wants of the communities in which we operate." I was also linked resources about the retention of LGBT members and a "Scout and Proud" event. It's not an issue in the UK at all.

It has been in multiple news articles that the Girl Scouts of America makes no such discriminatory call. They say they do not discriminate. Their actions are worth commendation.

Likewise, the 4H program, federally supported, has an anti-discrimination policy which insists that, not only can they not exclude anyone for any sort of sexuality, gender, race, and numerous other things, but they also cannot receive any sort of sponsorship based on discriminatory policies.

Citations:

Religion and love:

Book of Mormon 3 Nephi 12:43-48: http://www.lds.org/scriptures/bofm/3-ne/12?lang=eng
Bible: Mark 12:31 http://bible.cc/mark/12-31.htm
Koran 60:8 http://quran.com/60/8

Scouting:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fleur-de-lis_in_Scouting
http://scouts.org.uk/newsandviews/module/31/650/big-weekend/cat/428
http://scouts.org.uk/documents/por/2012/POR_Jan_2012/POR_Jan2012_chapter2.pdf
http://www.flagscouts.org.uk/

4H Policies:

http://www.nifa.usda.gov/about/nondiscrimination.html
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I find the actions of the Boy Scouts of America intolerable, and have written about it, and am no longer paying dues to have my name affiliated with the organization.

I am absolutely aware that the decisions and actions made by the heads of the Boy Scouts are not the official stances of all individuals who are a part of the organization, but I am no longer comfortable calling myself a Boy Scout. Once an Eagle, always an Eagle, but I am no longer a paying member of the Boy Scouts of America.

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~red-mohawk May 24, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
Might I say that 'orientation' is a choice. God doesn't create homosexuals, murderers, thief's etc. Also, do you really think teenagers and kids have a idea of their own sexual interests? I'd doubt it. Besides, It IS something you can help. There are ex-gays out there, and they all say that they made the wrong choice in life.

How is it discrimination when you don't agree with someone's attractions or views. To say someone is discriminating against a person because of what they believe is wrong is like telling them to stay silent. So if I meet someone who's a thief, am I discriminating against him because I believe stealing is wrong.

I would like to ask why it's suddenly important for LGBT to start force-throating their beliefs down a private organization that over a century old that is not the place for expanding your political or social ideas. Scouts is about building character, building leaders. It shouldn't be turned into a political base for anyone's beliefs! One last thing, a Scout's first duty is to God. How is supporting something that He hates (sin) follow that first tenant? And no, I'm nor singling out just homosexuality, I include every sin.

That's why the ban was put in in the first place. Because a Scout's duty is to God first, not the flesh.

And yes, I am aware of the BSA ban lift.
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*Tails-155 May 24, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Okay, firstly, are you just trolling? Because some people really think this stuff, but I know some people just try to get a reaction. Ex-gays are people who have gone through harmful process to force themselves to deny their true sexuality, The American Psychological Association says it's harmful: [link] , the American Psychiatric Association says it's harmful: [link] as well as many other groups who work directly with people who have had to endure the ex-gay ministries.

It is not something that can be helped. One theory is that it is epigenetic [link], there are still those who believe there may be genes involved, but the thought right now is in-utero development plays a large role. It is shown that the more older brothers a male has, the more likely he is to be gay. [link]

It is discrimination because you are chastising and outcasting those who are born different than you. These are things that don't directly harm you, and trust me, if it offends your god, (likely) he's probably powerful enough to handle it on (likely) his own without you or any organization taking care of it here. Stealing is not universally wrong, there are scruples situations in which one could say stealing is right. If there is a starving child, and the parent steals to feed the child, I can honestly say that that isn't done out of "evil." Further, stealing is classified as wrong because it directly harms another individual or group.

And you have totally misunderstood the situation. Throughout history, homosexuality, bisexuality, and everything else on the spectrum wasn't as strange as it is in a postChristian world. Heck, even a century ago, homosexuality was viewed differently than it was in the 50s, 70s, 90s, and now. [link] A conservative movement in the middle of the 20th century stigmatized homosexuality more severely than has been seen in a long time. The "suddenly" wanting their rights has been happening for 40 years or more, now. People have been battling this exclusionary situation for over a decade just in The Boy Scouts of America: [link] -- Similar organizations worldwide accept homosexual Scouts and leaders.

And overturning archaic policies in long-standing organizations based around character building is exactly where to discuss such policies. Excluding anyone from being able to be part of these organizations is a shame. It is discrimination and can be taken to civil court. They can ban whoever they want, but this is the response to discrimination. People act. It's not sudden, and is not free from criticism. A Scout's first duty may be a Duty to a god if they so believe, but even so, it is not a duty to the Christian God, it's not a duty to Muslim Allah, it is a duty to the higher power they recognize, if they recognize one at all (one can be spiritual and not religious, even though currently one can be banned for being fully nonreligious. A further shame.)

Not every religious doctrine includes a power who hates homosexuals. You need to realize that Christianity is not the only religion in the world. Those faiths (or lack thereof) have just as much say as yours in the realm of capital F Faith. A Scout's duty may, if they so believe, be to a god, but even so, it is not to your god, it is to the god that they believe in.
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~red-mohawk May 25, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
But what if they don't want to be gay and seek therapy to help them change, not because of negative feedback? And why would God create people who were homosexual when He declares it's not natural? You make it seem people are born gay when such a theory isn't proven. And Saying Christianity is too braid considering many different branches and churches have their own opinions of homosexuality..
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*Tails-155 May 26, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
That's for you to discuss with your god. Again, not every deity hates gay people. Further, the ones who don't want to be gay typically don't want to be gay because of at least one form of social pressure. If homosexually were socially accepted, I would be hard pressed to find someone who wanted to change something about who they are. Gay people can procreate and still be gay. Surrogates and sperm/egg donation.

People ARE born gay, there is a great deal of research showing that hormones, possibly genetics, and birth order all can affect homosexuality. Did you watch the video? Identical twins are likely, as high as 70% of the time to both be gay.

And, exactly, only certain sects of Christianity have problems with homosexuality. All of these are things you need to discuss with they god you believe in. They're not society's problem, they're a problem your religion has with being BEHIND society. And note: I am not insulting you, I am condemning the faith you accept.
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~red-mohawk Jun 2, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
Okay, so let's look at things from a less spiritual approach. Do you see any affects homosexuality can have on the family unit? And if gay rights are passed, what would be the consequences? I doubt those opposed would stand by and be quiet. I wonder if LGBT activists consider the repercussions if gay rights is passed.

And since when am I supposed to follow society? Who can say society never corrupts? That's why we have laws and restrictions. Society says how I must act or believe according to their standards to part of 'society.' I'd rather stay an individual.
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*Tails-155 Jun 2, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
There are no harmful consequences of gay people being able to join Scouts, and I didn't know we were talking family units, but if you wish to talk marriage rights, there is nothing harmful in that, either. If Jessica and Linda or John and Carl down the road want to marry, that doesn't affect you in the slightest, if they want to adopt a child, or raise a surrogate, they can raise that child just as well as any other couple of people could raise a child.

Nobody said you need to follow society, but I can tell you there is no corruption in being accepting of all people, especially when they aren't doing anything harmful. There is no social or safety benefit to restricting the entrance of perfectly normal people into an organization that could help raise them or their kids into more socially, business-wise, or ethically upstanding and capable individuals. You can stay an individual, but I can tell you, over time, most groups tend to make the right decision. This isn't always the case, as people have discriminated against others for centuries, but inclusion is, ethically, the best decision for individuals who don't intend to harm anyone. Stay the individual if you like, ignore society's expectations if you wish, but being individual doesn't necessarily mean being ethically correct.
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~red-mohawk Jun 3, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
Scout's isn't meant to be brought into politics. Period. It's a program to teach boys leadership. It is NOT a political
base to expand a social network.

And when has marraige become a right? It's an institution. If gay marraige is accepted, it's possible marraige will have less meaning, the spiritual aspect of it. Also, doesn't it seem strange that most homosexuals would bash me, or people who support gay rights, even though I have the right to express my myself?
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*Tails-155 Jun 3, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Firstly, you are correct it is not a political organization in and of itself, but as people, as a whole, come to demand a change, they can just as much influence organizations to change as they can the government. Discrimination against a group of people who did nothing wrong to anyone is something worth requesting to change.

Marriage will not change in any way if gay people can marry. If you don't like the idea of gay marriage, don't marry a gay person. I'm not bashing you, and I support gay rights. I have the right to call you a heterosexist just as much as you have the right to say you don't think gays should be in Scouting. I will disagree with you, I will say you are being heterosexist, but I am not saying you can't think or say that. It's just something I find unethical.
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